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Although I'm still waiting for news of my up! order I just wondered if you can get 15" steel wheels for the car?


The reason for asking is that I have a set of Renault 15" wheels, fitted with snow tyres,that I would like to use with the up! if possible.



However,am I correct in thinking thatthe wheel bolt spacing for VWs will be different to that of Renaults? If they are, I will have to buy new steel wheels to use the (nearly new) snow tyres.
 

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Almost everything will be incompatible with these wheels. Flog 'em on fleabay and put the money towards some new winter tyres for your up!
 

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You VW up! is 4x100 35et
Take up! 14inch steel wheels
High up! 15inch wheels

Or this might help

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<td ="#c0c0c0"="" valign="MIDDLE" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#c0c0c0"="" valign="MIDDLE" align="LEFT">P.C.D.</td>
<td ="#c0c0c0"="" valign="MIDDLE" align="LEFT">ET</td>
<td ="#c0c0c0"="" valign="MIDDLE" align="LEFT">C.B.</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 4, 5</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">3 x 130</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">€""�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 8, 20, 30</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">3 x 150</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">€""�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 9, 11, 19</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 21</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 21 Turbo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault 25</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Alpine</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Bellevue</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Champion</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Clio</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Elysee</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Espace</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Grand Espace</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Fuego</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Kangoo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Laguna</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Laguna</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Master (iki 1998 m.)</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 190</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">141.5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Master (nuo 1998 m.)</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 170</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">130</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Megane</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Rapid</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Safrane</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Safrane</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Scenic</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Spider</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Trafic</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 160</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">€""�</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Renault Twingo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Avantime</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">90 to 98</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Clio 1 1.2 to 1.8</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">90 to 98</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Clio 1 16S & Williams</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">98></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Clio 2 1.2 to 1.8</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">99></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Clio 2 16V & 2.0 RS</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">99></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Espace</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">03></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Kangoo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">98></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Laguna</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">01></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Laguna 4 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">94 to 01</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Laguna 5 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">94 to 01</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Megane</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">96 to 99</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Megane & Coupe</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">99 to 03</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">R21 4 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">88 to 95</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35 to 42</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">R21 Turbo 5 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">88 to 98</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">48 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Safrane / Espace 4 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">94 to 00</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Safrane / Espace 5 Stud</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">92 to 03</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Scenic</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">97 to 03</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Scenic RX4</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">00 to 03</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Super 5 1.2 1.4</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">82 to 97</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Super 5 GT Turbo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">92 to 92</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4x100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Trafic</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">01></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x118</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">71.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Twingo</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">01></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x118</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">71.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Vel Satis</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">02></td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5x108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">38 to 45</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60.1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">Clio, Megane, Laguna, R19, R21, Espace</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">4 x 100</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35...38</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td ="#ffffff"="" height="17" align="LEFT">R21 Turbo, Laguna V6</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">
</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">5 x 108</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">35</td>
<td ="#ffffff"="" align="LEFT">60</td></tr></t></table>



Edited by: gary02tdi
 

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Hi,If your clio was 4 stud then the PCD will be the same 4 x 100 offset on your clio steelies will be around et 42 but the main difference will be the clio centre bore is 60.1mm and the up is 57.1mm centre bore.
They will fit but the centre bore will be a little sloppy when fitting the wheels otherwise will be fine when tightened up but the tyres will neeed to have the same rolling radius as it will throw the speedo and gearing out.
 

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Aside from trying to fit the Renault wheels to your up!, I have been thinking about the options for winter tyres.
The standard VW option is for four of the same type as the 'full size spare' option e.g. 5" x 14" with 165/70 x 14 tyres. These wheels are c.£45 each plus another £45 (each) for the trims if required, plus the tyres of course.
However, with 15" Spoke wheels fitted to the car normally, I'm not sure I would want to spend 35-40% of the year on the smaller wheels.
With a second set of Spoke wheels costing c.£450, I was interested in any other options.
Elsewhere on the forum are pictures of a modified up! with Mini wheels - so I was wondering if the steel wheels off a Mini One might fit as a less expensive alternative - I think they are 15" diameter.
 
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