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Hi everyone.

VW are saying I need a new Cam Belt and want to charge £500 to replace. They say it needs to be changed every 5 years on the UP! regardless of milage. My car is very low mileage. but they still say it needs replacing at 5 years and that if it breaks I will lose my car.

Looking for others opinions really, does anyone have any experience of this? Is it cheaper to take it somewhere else than VW?


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They are raiding your wallet, IMHO. It is a standard "FUD" sales technique.

Lots of conflicting advice around, and VW in many other countries would not recommend a low-mileage change after only 5 years.

If it were me, I'd want to see evidence that the belt is looking worn, and maybe get a second opinion.

Belts do age over time, but they mostly get worn from use, i.e. mileage. They also wear faster for drivers who race around a lot, using high revs, like it is for many moving parts!
 

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Thanks Steve. I contacted a local mechanic and he said he could fit one for half the price. Then VW came back asking if he was fitting it with a genuine VW part. The mechanic said he can get one for me if I want but its £100 more and the parts are all made by the same company anyway and the same quality, VW just put their stamp on them after - 'raiding my wallet is right!' Bloody minefield...
 

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Volkswagen UK say to change it every 5 years regardless of mileage so they're advising you at the right time....
Volkswagen in many other places say to just inspect at 100,000 miles. May not even need replacing at that time.
So if you really want to be safe then get your belt done, but do be prepared for the dent to the wallet that might not pay off
 

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I had a Fiat Cinq Sporting many years ago. Fiat recommended a belt change at 7 years. I had done a low mileage so i did not bother and kept it another year without a problem. I then sold it to a trader who did not ask if the belt had been changed.
As Steve says if you dont race around at max revs all day you should be fine,but it is a gamble and a game of chance.If the belt did snap it is good bye engine and it would cost a lot more for a new engine than a new belt.
There are plenty of VW Independent garages that will charge less than a main dealer and use genuine VW Parts. Then again if you go on VWs web site and look at the service section they say they will match prices if you can get the work done for less,so why not get some written quotes and take the quotes to your VW main dealer.
 

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If you search on this forum you will find a looooong thread re. this.
VW UK choose to ignore VW itself.
Up selling at its worst:-(
The UK dealer network are franchises who constantly try this sort of stuff on. They called to tell me that my Golf needed a cam belt change. It doesn't even have one!!

So long story short. Do some research and ignore VW dealers whenever they start trying to empty your wallet.
 

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VW Europe say 160k, VW UK say 5 years. Your cambelt will most likely be in perfect condition. These modern belts are high quality parts made to last. VW UK are preying on your fears in an effort to empty your wallet.

That said when you eventually do get it done use a main dealer or good independent specialist in VAG cars as the know what they are doing and should offer a warranty!
 

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Hi Richy
Can you post a copy of the Service schedule, that would be really helpful. Thanks in advance
Hi it's with my local independent garage who I've used for the last 20 years with all my vehicles. When I was booking it in for a service at that time the reception / work order lady told me she can see on the screen the belt change was due as stated before. So I had it done at that time.I'm assuming they have access to screens / data/ service items that we don't.

The somewhat generic service record book I have just lists under other work outside the normal service items, such things as brake fluid / toothed belt inspections / change and says they are mileage / age dependant. There's no specific list of items by mileage etc.. in the "home" service manual.
 

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Excellent, thanks Richy 👌
Ta I seem to have fallen under the 160K within 5 years or 5 years 9 months to be precise, my car was this age not 7 years as stated when the belt was done. Obviously this is extremely unusual for a "normal" driver. Hence I will this time know to have it done at 5 years old regardless of mileage which is forecast to be about 80,000.

Seems pretty clear that the at 5 year belt change is required regardless of mileage.
 

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Changed ours at 6 years/26000 miles at independant and it was, in his opinion, a waste of money having changed it.
 

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Nothing to stop people getting the belt checked before choosing to change it.

There is bound to be a conflict of interest between VW dealers (or independents for that matter), wanting to sell their services, and what is genuinely technically necessary. A print-out from a chain of garages doesn't mean much to me.... What we really need is the data from the design team for the engine, and you can be sure those people are kept in the background so as not to get in the way of others making money, just as it usually is!
 

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Nothing to stop people getting the belt checked before choosing to change it.

There is bound to be a conflict of interest between VW dealers (or independents for that matter), wanting to sell their services, and what is genuinely technically necessary. A print-out from a chain of garages doesn't mean much to me.... What we really need is the data from the design team for the engine, and you can be sure those people are kept in the background so as not to get in the way of others making money, just as it usually is!
The print out is from VW Auto data from VW databases. The local garages will access these systems via licence to see the relevant service details and requirements, same for other makes and models. It's not just a print out from some local garage.
 
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