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Of course, as is often the case, this thread has already strayed from the requested format, and although not inline with what has been requested, certainly staying on-topic, I would like to pose an additional question ...

Having successfully negotiated a price for your brand new Up! GTI with your dealer, what if he then presented you with the following options ...

1) On collection day, you collect your shiny new car from the dealership, exactly as described, and as expected.

2) Special Offer !! - Just £245 !! - The day before you collect it, we will drive it around the corner to a guy in an industrial unit who is in no way affiliated with us, nor recommended by us but who tells us he will reprogram your new cars ECU to give you better performance and will produce a printout (provided by himself of course) to prove it. Then, on collection day, you collect your shiny new car from the dealership, but your new car is supplied with absolutely no warranty whatsoever for your brand new engine, gearbox or drivetrain. Oh, and you might want to inform your insurer, and if you have any morals, you would also need to inform any prospective buyer, when the time comes to sell the car, that it has been modified by an unrecognised third party to the extent that its warranty is void and that they too must inform their insurer otherwise they risk driving uninsured.

So sir, just so I can process the order, what will it be ?

Oh, and if you were considering option number 2, just to let you know ... Should there be any recalls for your vehicle, in terms of mechanical design faults or issues, related to the engine, gearbox or drivetrain, then I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to carry those out sir, we would have to charge you for them.
Go for it!

Fill your boots
 

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I’m an old lady, but I don’t know what “winging” means, although that may be my age.

1) I had mine done at 121 miles
2) I’ve been told it gave me 300BHP and 500NM of torque, although like most others who quote these figures I have no idea what these numbers mean.
3) The only problems I’ve had are VW not honouring the clutch and gearbox warranty claim after I kept doing burnouts around the local estates, and then my insurer refusing to pay out after I crashed into the bus stop outside the local primary school.
4) I also had a super loud exhaust and some colourful stripes painted down the side to make it look like an ice cream van.
5) Who did it - Well, I wish I knew ... He seemed like a really nice guy and had a little place on the local industrial estate. He had loads of likes on Facebook, but now I can’t get hold of him, his roller shutter door is permanently down and his Facebook page has been taken down.

To make matters worse, for some reason, it would seem that VW don’t want to know.

Hope this helps !
 

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What's the fear surrounding the changing of a cars ECU software.
If it's carried out by a company that has received many illustrious motoring awards, as is the case of JBS Auto Design in Chesterfield, then you can be fairly confident the software used, has been tried and tested, and will enhance the performance and drive ability of your vehicle.

I can remember several years ago, visiting the Mercedes dealership in Pall Mall Liverpool.
My friend was considering the purchase of either a new S class CDi or a Jaguar XJ.

The Mercedes dealership in Liverpool are AMG specialists, and right there next to the refreshment & rest area, was a very nice display cabinet full of very impressive and expensive tuning modules, all designed to increase the Hp of your new or nearly new car.

These electronic tuning boards are sanctioned by Mrrcedes, and remapping a Mercedes is not a dirty word in most dealerships.

What about your warranty, well the AMG section of Mercedes openly encourage potential customers to spend huge sums, to get them behind a wheel of an AMG powered vehicle, and the cars warranty remains rock solid.

Strangely the Vw/Audi group have never gone down the road of sanctioning tuning their vehicles, even though there's a big market for it.

There is no tuning section of VW, like there is for BMW and Mercedes, that.s a real shame, so is it any wonder there are many customers out there, visiting rather Good tuning specialists, Bad tuning specialists and incurring Ugly results when the software used, has not been tried tested, or even designed to work with a VW TSI engine.

Choose the company wisely, a company that has gained a reputation for excellence, and remapping the cars ECU should pose few risks to the vehicle.

Remapping is not for everyone, but it's been proved by countless providers, to be a successful and perfectly safe process if carried out within the safe tolerances of a cars engine
 

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Yawn, do we have to go over this again and again and again and again.

Get it remapped or don't. Your car, your choice.

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Yawn, do we have to go over this again and again and again and again.

Get it remapped or don't. Your car, your choice.

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I second this, the remap discussion will go on for ever, if you want a bit more shove then get it remapped.
If you are concerned in any way then don’t bother. The car is not exactly underpowered in standard tune after all.
 

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What's the fear surrounding the changing of a cars ECU software.
If it's carried out by a company that has received many illustrious motoring awards, as is the case of JBS Auto Design in Chesterfield, then you can be fairly confident the software used, has been tried and tested, and will enhance the performance and drive ability of your vehicle.

I can remember several years ago, visiting the Mercedes dealership in Pall Mall Liverpool.
My friend was considering the purchase of either a new S class CDi or a Jaguar XJ.

The Mercedes dealership in Liverpool are AMG specialists, and right there next to the refreshment & rest area, was a very nice display cabinet full of very impressive and expensive tuning modules, all designed to increase the Hp of your new or nearly new car.

These electronic tuning boards are sanctioned by Mrrcedes, and remapping a Mercedes is not a dirty word in most dealerships.

What about your warranty, well the AMG section of Mercedes openly encourage potential customers to spend huge sums, to get them behind a wheel of an AMG powered vehicle, and the cars warranty remains rock solid.

Strangely the Vw/Audi group have never gone down the road of sanctioning tuning their vehicles, even though there's a big market for it.

There is no tuning section of VW, like there is for BMW and Mercedes, that.s a real shame, so is it any wonder there are many customers out there, visiting rather Good tuning specialists, Bad tuning specialists and incurring Ugly results when the software used, has not been tried tested, or even designed to work with a VW TSI engine.

Choose the company wisely, a company that has gained a reputation for excellence, and remapping the cars ECU should pose few risks to the vehicle.

Remapping is not for everyone, but it's been proved by countless providers, to be a successful and perfectly safe process if carried out within the safe tolerances of a cars engine
You make it sound like a dark art. It really really isn't.
 

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So long as it's remapped by a company that is reputable in that area of the industry, what's the problem? APR, Racing Line, Blue Chip, REVO amongst others have been remapping many brands of cars for many years, Ford actually do special Mountune versions of their cars that are factory approved. There is always scope to improve the performance of a car whatever it is, manufacturers generally put their vehicles in the safest form for both longevity and economy, but you can bet they've experimented on an engine to see how far they can push it before it goes boom.

If you want to get your car remapped, go for it. If you're happy as it is, then don't, simple choice really. I don't get why some people on here are getting funny about it.
 

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That's my very point, some people here, are so petrified about getting their car remapped, that they try and dissuade others from having it done,
Who cares about a cars warranty, get the car remapped, and enjoy the benefits of an engine tuned for peak efficiency
 

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Well I'm just reckless. I drive ours......putting miles on it AND in the rain:oops:
NOOOO, you can't. Don't you know these are special limited edition vehicles that can't see the light of day unless it's going to be dry for 5 days straight?
 

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NOOOO, you can't. Don't you know these are special limited edition vehicles that can't see the light of day unless it's going to be dry for 5 days straight?
Don't worry. I'll be completing a nut and bolt rebuild soon. Starting with the spark plugs🤔
 

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That's the problem when your running four cars, it's a song and dance, and a game of musical chairs, to even get at the Gti, which sits snugly tucked away in a dry and well ventilated garage.

Just recently greeted our friends 2013 Up Black, which now sits on our drive, as a permanent loan.

She doesn't want to sell it, so I am custodian for the foreseeable future.
It's a nice car, with just over 8000 miles on its clock.
She spends most of her time living in Italy, but still has a home near Hawarden.

That's why the Gti has such low miles, and gets little use, but it will be enjoyed during the summer

PROMISE
 

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I second this, the remap discussion will go on for ever, if you want a bit more shove then get it remapped.
If you are concerned in any way then don’t bother. The car is not exactly underpowered in standard tune after all.
I always say if you ask the warranty question don't do it and you will never be disappointed

I get mine services now at independent so only goes to a dealer if it needs warranty work and its a cheap car so if I blow it up it will have some residual value

I mapped my up, I'd like to keep the warranty on my Cayman and pdk box so won't map that.

If you you can't afford to pay if it goes wrong don't play.
 

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I always say if you ask the warranty question don't do it and you will never be disappointed

I get mine services now at independent so only goes to a dealer if it needs warranty work and its a cheap car so if I blow it up it will have some residual value

I mapped my up, I'd like to keep the warranty on my Cayman and pdk box so won't map that.

If you you can't afford to pay if it goes wrong don't play.
Do you actually think anyone is impressed with:
I'm so rich I've got a Cayman and the UP is so cheap I can afford to blow it up and throw it away?
Smug doesn't quite cover it.
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A friend of mine, who lives and works in Llandudno, bought a stunning example of a Porsche Cayman, on a 14 plate, for just under £21k.

It's a one owner model, with an impeccable service history, and like my Up Gti, never saw any road salt.

Bought new, obviously, their expensive cars, especially when you hit Porsches legendary options list. but owning and running a Cayman can be done on a strict budget, if you find the right car, and keep the mileage low.

Probably my all time favourite car, would be a 1989 Porsche 930 Turbo, in Porsche Grey.
If I blew my entire savings, I could probably afford one, but I would be miserable in my old age, unable to run the thing.

Who has not seen that famous scene in Condor Man where they destroy several of them, and according to archive material, due to the high budget of the film, the cars used were rough examples and genuine cars.
 
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