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Hi all.
The daughters Up has the entry level 14" tyres on.
Here in Oz it's fitted with Hankook KINERGY Eco 165/70/14.
Economy tyre with average grip/harsh ride.
Was wanting to get something better but the selection here is average.
The local tyre joint says if we can go to 175/65/14 there are heaps more to choose.
The question I'm asking has anyone done a tyre change going down an aspect ratio?
Looks as though there's plenty of room.
Thoughts?
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In italy 14'' are shipped with 175/65 R14 so VW italy defenantly allows you too so I don't think theres any clearance problems.
 

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upOZ said:
Hi all.
The daughters Up has the entry level 14" tyres on.
Here in Oz it's fitted with Hankook KINERGY Eco 165/70/14.
And not nearly up to what the brakes can do.

In that size, the most decent tyres are the Continental Ecocontact 5.


The local tyre joint says if we can go to 175/65/14 there are heaps more to choose.
If you stick with the 14" rims

On the Eco / CNG up! that's the standard size, so it fits perfectly.
Mine came with Bridgestone Ecopia EP25's, which I won't recommend - swapped them already.

Best tested rubber - in Europe :
Continental Ecocontact 5
Premiumcontact 5 (these wear out very fast but they also drive very good)
Michelin Energy Saver Plus (pricey, but long lasting and decent driving)
Fulda Ecocontrol HP (well balanced, not that expensive)
Vredestein Sportrac 5


Another option is 185/60/14 - and you can get some decent rubber in that size.

You'd get the above + the new Dunlop Sport Bluresponse that does well in tyre tests, and feels excellent under my up (in 15") - far better than the Ecopias.
I don't expect them to last very long though.


The question I'm asking has anyone done a tyre change going down an aspect ratio?
Actual sidewall height will be virtually the same though, even if you drop down 2 aspect ratios, as the tyre is also wider, to keep the same / similar diameter.
 

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I have Bridgestone Ecopia fitted to my BMT and they are perfectly ok very little road noise hardly any signs of wear the car has now done 16k miles.
 

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Hey guys,
Thanks for the responces.
Here we don't have all the 'good' stuff you have in eu.

If you see on Contis au site the closest thing they have is ContoComfortContact5.
Have just fitted Contis to my Renault Koleos, seems to be going well.

Michelin IMHO are going through a crap phase here in au.
Entry level tyres coming from all parts of asia.
People who care about tyres say only the top of the tree stuff is good.
Else is ho hum with 'up there prices'.

I like Yokis but am still undecided about eco tyres hence the ask.
Am 100% willing to sacrifice economy for grip.
Its only a 900kg car. They won't wear out that quick.

Although, I had soft Yokis on my Commodore that didn't last that well at all.
Big wank tank.

Fulda is an uncommon tyre - although have seen a few around.

Toyo TEO+ apparently is available - looks like a touring tyre, although my belief it still would be better than what's on there now.

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upOZ said:
Here we don't have all the 'good' stuff you have in eu.
Apparently not.
Bummer.

By the looks of it, you guys seem to be kept one tyre generation behind Europe.

Entry level tyres coming from all parts of asia.
People who care about tyres say only the top of the tree stuff is good.
Most of the asian stuff falls right through in European tyre tests.
 

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Being so close to asia, it's not surprising.
However, we have had lots of Jap influence since the mid 60's.
Not all Jap stuff is garbage. LOTS of good stuff.
Conversely, a lot of euro stuff is so much more expensive than good Jap.
Conti's have had a price reduction recently so are coming down to MIchi prices and below.
Lots of people driving on cheap chinese LING LONGs, COW DUNGS, etc that have NO grip.
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If you get Nankang in Oz, go for them.

They have a highly unfair reputation for being called 'ditchfinders' however I've run them on the last dozen or so cars I've owned and never had a problem with them, neither have any of my firends and colleagues who have also fitted them. This is including a 2-ton, RWD, 280BHP Lexus that went round corners perfectly well, even in the wet.
 

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If you get Nankang in Oz, go for them.

They have a highly unfair reputation for being called 'ditchfinders' however I've run them on the last dozen or so cars I've owned and never had a problem with them, neither have any of my firends and colleagues who have also fitted them. This is including a 2-ton, RWD, 280BHP Lexus that went round corners perfectly well, even in the wet.
Shak,

Yes we have them here in oz as well, however, most are fitted to large cars which have the weight to make them 'bite'.
I, myself, have heard too many horror stories about them as well to trust them on such a light weight vehicle.
Am even wondering if 185/60/14 might be over-tyred?
Here in Melbourne, we can have stinking hot summers (35-40C) so that the width won't be a problem, but we also have reasonable winters with lots of rain, so aquaplaning MAY be a problem.

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Good bad or indifferent have fitted new black round things.
Tyres we have fitted are TOYO Teos - 175/65/14.
Basically a touring tyre.
Initial impressions are that the car is not as nervous as before, more than likely due to tyre 'balloon'.
Daughter and I are much happier with result.
 
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