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Does anyone know if the up! shares it's pedals with any other VW model.... was just thinking that it would be quite good to replace the black rubber ones with the metal and rubber ones usually seen on the GTI models?
 

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Been looking at the whole vw range, from skoda to Audi and they all have them, just wondered if anyone could confirm which would fit?
No, as soon as the gt/gti/r version is announced I'll be at my dealers door
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<div style="text-align: center;">There's Modifications that negate your insurance and those that don't.
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<div style="text-align: center;">This mod is the former !!
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<div style="text-align: center;">Modifications to a cars safety systems are a no. no. If you have an accident then the shiny GT pedals are a great giveaway... and are a fabulous get out clause for your insurance company.

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<div style="text-align: center;">Even worse scenario.. if someone got killed
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I know this is way off topic but you got me thinking, when the gt version can you upgrade to it by paying a little bit extra??
 

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*gt version comes out
 

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the UP has a hang down one.
In which case. Try the Audi TT pedals
It's a common modification on a few cars, polo 6n2, and 6r, (which probably means the 9n, and 9n3 too) as well as the Lupo, and probably a lot more.

I've tried to find some decent photos for you, but typically when I want them, I can't find them!!
How ever google images 'VW polo gti 6n2 TT pedals' - and other things along those lines and youll get plenty of images

You might find this thread useful:

Fitting TT Pedals


They don't tend to cost much at all, if they are no good, you can sell them on again :) (tho of they fit the 6r polo I would have thought they would fit the Up! As it would be pointless for VW to make different pedal sizes )


6r with Audi TT PedalsEdited by: Verity
 

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<div style="text-align: center; ">There's Modifications that negate your insurance and those that don't.
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<div style="text-align: center; ">This mod is the former !!
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<div style="text-align: center; ">Modifications to a cars safety systems are a no. no. If you have an accident then the shiny GT pedals are a great giveaway... and are a fabulous get out clause for your insurance company.

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<div style="text-align: center; ">Even worse scenario.. if someone got killed
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<div style="text-align: center; ">Dave
not exactly ripspeed add on's, There not gonna look out of place in a up black with sports pack. Pretty sure, If yourcompetentin working on cars,changingpedalsisn'texactly changing acam-beltis it.

No different to putting some uprated brake pads in, your modifying a cars safety systems. who tells the insurance company they have fitted some green stuff pads ( not pads of my choice i hate them).

Or changing the headlight bulbs. you fit some different bulbs your not going to go through thehassleof ringing you insurance company for the sake of your new 50% brighter bulbs. again what if the bulbs you had bought were from a faulty batch and failed on your way home at 11 o clock, you could kill some one,






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Polo GTI pedals here we come...
Think technically if I buy VW group pedals you could say they're a genuine part and not a mod', more of an option
 

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The flaw in your argument George lies within this sentence ...

"Pretty sure, If yourcompetentin working on cars,...."

Trying to prove this after an accident when the insurance 'loss adjuster' starts delving would be, let's say.. fun. Loss adjusters do what it says on the can.. adjust losses in the insurance companies favour. They are pretty sharp and will spot an out of place spec on a car in minutes, especially if injuries are involved and the Police also. "I got some pedals from a write off scrap yard GTi and fitted them myself and only needed to mod the pivot holes and move them right a little my Lord.." will surely be a rock solid defence
when the enlarged pivot hole fractures.

It's entirely up to you of course.. and you accept the risk if you do not tell your insurance company about these mods. There's a reason why they record your calls and emphasise that they need to know of ALL mods... It's to protect them and give them lot's of get out clauses.

Modding your car and keeping it on a bog standard, cheap insurance without telling them is upto you. Lot's of people do.

Adrian Flux do some great insurance deals for modded cars. Most clubs insure their kit cars through them and I did both of mine through them too. These were hand built from the ground up in our home garages and, no two being alike were pure "mods" throughout.This is specialist insurance cover that you will not get from mainstream 'DirectLine' or others.

The hand built and modded kitcars then do not automatically get released onto the road on your say "that I am a competent mechanic.." but have to go through individual and rigorous SVA testing at a government approved test centre.

Here's the 2nd of my cars being put through it's tests [a real nail biting experience
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To give an example and flavour of the radical mods we typically designed ourselves into these cars see the images below. I decided to not have springs etc outside of the car like most others but to fit F1 style inner springs. So I created all the suspension inside the engine bay with adjustable coilovers etc.

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As for fitting 50% brighter bulbs... again it's entirely upto you to remain within EC standards and guidelines. I just hope that me or my wife don't meet you headon down a muddy, wet lane sometime


Best wishes

Dave
 

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I do understand your argument. but we are not talking aboutswappingpedals from a peugeot 206 gti to fit an Up! As your are " competent" with cars i thought you might understand VW sharing partsthroughoutthere Fleet. Modifying a pivot hole would not benecessary. I have actually been to see a very goodfriendof mine who owns the biggest rival, VAG specialist garages for VW themself. He tells me the UP! doesin factshare pedals with the Polo.

As for me beingcompetentworking on cars, I do infact have a level 3 diploma in, Motor vehicletechnology in Motor sport. I aslo worked, for two years in the garage i mentioned above, so i know a fair bit about VAG cars. I have also restored a 1953 series one landrover, and a 1992 classic mini,

i totally understand the whole kit car scene, during college our second year project was to build and race prepare a Tiger z100,
i am impressed with yourPush rodsuspensiondesign, But in my personal opinion seven Style kit cars have to be very fast, toutilisethere handlingability.
 

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Hi George929

Never doubted your competency m8. Mine are just general comments for the other side of the argument
. My son has a Tiger kitcar now and it's a fab piece of kit... Good choice.

Best wishes

Dave
 

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Thats a VERY nice looking set up Dave!

I can see your points from both sides!

Worked on cars for Mod Saloon car championship, and Cobra kit car, and I also worked for a large insurance company for over 8 years. I knew our loss adjuster well and can tell you from experience your on VERY thin ice swapping components from another model EVEN within a mark!
Silly things can VOID your insurance like fitting alloy wheels! different profile tyres and even excessively wrong tyre pressures! if in doubt inform your insurance first!

"Hey lets be careful out there"

 

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totally agree safety comes first and being honest with the insurance company is also important. i had tints and had to tell the insurance company.

i have seen people do crazy engine swaps without declaring them and eventually either get totalled or towed away!
 

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The Audi TT pedal set I have mentioned are just clip on parts not a full pedal change.

Simply peal off your standard set of rubber pedals and put the new set on (a rubber flange around the edge holds them tightly in place) 



It completly depends on your insurance conpany
Obviously you have to tell your IC about every little change. Radio, stickers, even something as small as door pins. I read the small print on one company once that even wanted to know when you were using roof bars and boxes. 
However a lot of companies dont charge for a lot of mods, they just wont cover them in case of an accident. Ie. if your car was lowered with a fancy exhaust, and it is written off they would only give you the money for a standard car.

If this is a mod you really want to do its worth asking your insurance company how they would feel about it. 

At the end of the day you can make it clear to them, it's an original part - they wouldnt keep manufacturing cars with these sorts of pedals if they were unsafe, ie Slippy (having driven my boyfriends Edition 30 with them in as standard and my own car with standard black pedals, I would say his are actually gripper)  and they simply fit on like an original part, so they couldn't argue about them flying off whilst driving, as if that was the case then your original ones would do the same. 
 

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Modifications are a nightmare, basically anything that is not fitted in the factory can be deemed a modification by some insurance companies (and that can include dealer fitted accessories).


I have an Aygo and fitted a rev counter to it (a standard Aygo accesory and is a trivial job as the mounting position and electrics are alredy present. I fitted it as my 17 year old son is learning to drive and they are taught to watch the rev counter to decide when to change gear !!



LV (after consulting their underwriter) said put it down as an internal modification. This put another 10% on the quote for me and when I tried to add my son on the computer refused - they would only insure him in a car with no modifications !!



Insurance companies have different rules, however it is always important to be totally honest with them about all changes made and make a note of the date of the conversation.
 
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