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Hello, I have found a brand new full optional GTI at a reasonable price.
Probably the last one available in my country with panoramic roof :smile:
Now problem is.... what if a face-lift or brand new model will arrive late this year or 2020?
I have read rumors the Up! will likely be electric only but it would drive me crazy if a new GTI will appear soon (especially with 4 proper brakes instead of 2 discs)

I know nobody knows for sure but maybe there's some "insider" here?
Many thanks"
Carlo
 

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I'd go with zero. I'm fairly convinced that the GTI was made to shift shells.
 

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I agree with the last 2 posts. That's it. The boring Electrical and Hybrid age is upon us!! And Carlo..What's wrong with rear drums on a 985 kilo car? The brakes are awesome.You need to test one.Also, if they had fitted rear discs the chances are an electric handbrake would have been fitted too and they are rubbish!
 

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No insider here too but according to "my" dealer there will be no more GTis.
Even the new model.
Just electric, CNG and a petrol model with 60 or 65 bhp.
I can not be 100% sure about this information but I believe him due to environment issues.
 

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The Skoda CityGo and Seat Mii, i have been led to believe, will only be available in pure electric form in the very near future.
Just look at the sad demise of the Up TSi engine option on the VW configurator.
The Up is now an old model, being close on eight years in production, and i bet Vw would love to pull the plug and introduce a fully electric only range for its city cars.

Unfortunately, the Up is still in big demand, especially here in the Uk, where it regularly comes top of the motoring press every year.

With increased pressure to reduce car emissions, and to go fully electric, sooner than later, possibly in the next few years, the only city cars available in the Vw range, will be electric.

As for that fully loaded Gti, at a good price, grab it with open arms, you will certainly not regret buying it, and it will be one of those rare cars that only those in the know, will say " There's one of those classic Vws, when VW knew how to build a car for pure fun and enjoyment"

Somehow i cannot imagine owning a UP Gti, if it was only available as a fully electric car.

It might accelerate like a missile, but there's no driver involvement or excitement of going through the gears.

The Up gti is all about fun and added theatrical noise, take away that noise with an electric motor, then its a bit pointless really.
 

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I prefer a MK1 of any model, sure they get better as they get updated but I think MK1s always remain more desirable, especially if they stopped making them so quickly like the up GTI.
 

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Speaking as an 'insider' working at a VW dealership, we've not been told any more than anyone else here... but the thinking is that if the order books were going to reopen they would've done by now. The Up! is easily the oldest car in the range now, being launched in 2011, a year older than the soon to be replaced Mk 7 Golf. So hard to see it soldiering on much longer in any guise ☹ My guess would be another special edition in the vein of Club Up! or Up! White being the swansong, but can't see the GTI returning. Whether that's good news or bad depends on if you own one or not!
 

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The Skoda CityGo and Seat Mii, i have been led to believe, will only be available in pure electric form in the very near future.
Just look at the sad demise of the Up TSi engine option on the VW configurator.
The Up is now an old model, being close on eight years in production, and i bet Vw would love to pull the plug and introduce a fully electric only range for its city cars.

Unfortunately, the Up is still in big demand, especially here in the Uk, where it regularly comes top of the motoring press every year.

With increased pressure to reduce car emissions, and to go fully electric, sooner than later, possibly in the next few years, the only city cars available in the Vw range, will be electric.

As for that fully loaded Gti, at a good price, grab it with open arms, you will certainly not regret buying it, and it will be one of those rare cars that only those in the know, will say " There's one of those classic Vws, when VW knew how to build a car for pure fun and enjoyment"

Somehow i cannot imagine owning a UP Gti, if it was only available as a fully electric car.

It might accelerate like a missile, but there's no driver involvement or excitement of going through the gears.

The Up gti is all about fun and added theatrical noise, take away that noise with an electric motor, then its a bit pointless really.
I agree especially with your comments about owning an Up GTI with an electric motor, where is the fun in that! Hold onto your Up GTI if you got one as the combustion engines and the manual gearboxes days are counted
 

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Slightly off-topic but it was great to see mine swamped by a hoard of Japanese tourists as I walked away from it after parking up at Cheshire Oaks shopping village last Thursday evening. They pointed at and took plenty of pictures of the wheels, wings, sunroof and front and rear end as they respectfully, yet enthusiastically chirped away to each other in their native tonge !
 

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Hello, I have found a brand new full optional GTI at a reasonable price.
Probably the last one available in my country with panoramic roof :smile:
Now problem is.... what if a face-lift or brand new model will arrive late this year or 2020?
I have read rumors the Up! will likely be electric only but it would drive me crazy if a new GTI will appear soon (especially with 4 proper brakes instead of 2 discs)

I know nobody knows for sure but maybe there's some "insider" here?
Many thanks"
Carlo
The GTI will not return, the current up! is to be replaced by an all electric model based on the iD platform in 2020, so basically it's now a run-out model.

There's absolutely no need for rear disc brakes on a sub-1 tonne, 115bhp car. The rear brakes do only 20% of the day to day braking, and drums are more efficient at what the rear brakes do primarily, which is the handbrake. The only downsides with drums is brake fade when then get hot, so unless you're track daying your GTi, rear discs are simply an expensive, aesthetic option which adds nothing to the performance of the vehicle.
 

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A last flourish for the petrol engined Up?
Pretty much. VW have been notorious for it for decades. The other halves 72 beetle is a 1300A which is a 1200 bodied car with a 1300 twinport engine and a 1500 gearbox. They stopped selling the 1200 at that time so had to shift the shells already made somehow.
 

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Volkswagen were constantly making claims, that the Up GTi was a modern recreation of the original Mk1 Golf Gti, both in performance and handling.
The one thing i do like about my Gti is its similarities to the original 1976 hatch.

The original Mk1 had drum brakes on the back, and still handled magnificently.
Apart from the extra cost and designing a rear disc set up for an entire range of cars that does not have them, its the lack of brake dust on my wheels i most like.

If Vw are spouting all these similarities between the Up Gti and the original Mk1, then at least make the Up as authentic as possible.

The Mk1 Gti never had rear rear brake discs, so why should the Up Gti have them, it simply does not need them.
 

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It looks like that the new e-Up will be just a refreshed 'old' e-Up. It will not be based on the new VW e-platform.
You can see the new e-Up on the Dutch VW site and, surprise, surprise, it just looks like the old e-Up:

https://www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/up/e-up

The text says: 'The e-Up is back from being away'.

There is a desperate need for cheap e-cars in the current market and obviously VW decided to continue the production of the old e-Up with some upgrades to the batteries and electronics. And as the new e-Up uses the existing Up shell there are chances that the Up GTi will re-appear.

On the German VW site you can still see the Up! GTi being presented but currently not being orderable.
https://www.volkswagen.de/de/models/up-gti.html

The text says something like: 'The GTi is temporarily not available to order but we will inform you as soon as it is available again.'

So I think because of the e-Up the shells will be continued to be produced and as there is a higher margin on the GTI and all the components like the 1.0 engine are used in other cars the chances are high that the Up GTi will indeed re-appear.
 

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handled magnificently.
Nope, not close. Unless you think that cocking a wheel because it's leaning on it's bump stops is good handling. Fun almost certainly, but good it's not.

(owned a few)
 

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Probably superb in its day, when compared to Ford Cortinas, Morris Marinas etc

Although the MK1 Cavalier was the start of saloon cars that handled well.
 

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So, if we're right in what we think and the GTI doesn't return to the order books, who here has the last of the line? The last registered? And the first for that matter! Anyone here with a 67 plate ex demo?
 

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So, if we're right in what we think and the GTI doesn't return to the order books, who here has the last of the line? The last registered? And the first for that matter! Anyone here with a 67 plate ex demo?
We haven't had the last registered yet, there are still open order waiting delivery from Bratislava, which will probably spill into 69 plate territory.
 
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