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Hey all, just wanted to find out if anyone has tested the two on the motorway and if there are any differences.
 

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No difference.. they're both able to do the speed limit.
 
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FWIW:

We tested both engines back to back with 40min drives each version.

The less powerful engine was fine around town and country lanes.

However, our test route deliberately included a 1.75 mile stretch of dual carriageway that is very steep.

The smaller engined car (Take up!) struggled up this. About 40% of the way up we had to down change to 4th then 3rd. We felt like we were impeding traffic and were not comfortable at all. It felt borderline dangerous tbh.

We then switched to a Black up! and the larger engine romped up the hill (very quickly) in 5th and with some urge to spare.

You don't buy these cars to drive at ten tenths but we like our cars to have a bit in reserve when needed.

We set out to buy the smaller engined version but were not convinced and settled for the larger engined variant.
 

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Even though they were demonstrators, both engines would still have been tight and not properly run-in yet, so there may be more to come from them both.

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I have read somewhere that the 60ps version has longer gearing,enabling lower revs than the more powerful engine when cruising on the motorway,but I don't know for sure if this is so.
 

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polohtp said:
I have read somewhere that the 60ps version has longer gearing,enabling lower revs than the more powerful engine when cruising on the motorway,but I don't know for sure if this is so.
That would work against a lower powered car!
 

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It is the same engine, but with different mapping in the ECU. So probably the same gear box. I find the 60ps engine more than enough. It romps up some quite steep hills that taxed my 1.3 liter Ford Ka, but you do have to drop down a gear or two.

Would that hill be near Exeter? I think there is a Telegraph Hill down there. I used to do that one in a 1 liter Micra, hi ho.
 

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I have to say it didn't make much sense to me either,but I'd thought I'd mention it to see if anybodies experiences backed it up!
 

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Both are 999cc with different mapping, as Leif says. Both have the same peak torque at 95 NM. Under normal driving they should feel very similar. The 75 PS model will probably produce its extra power quite high up in the rev range.
 

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Well I think I am glad that I brought up the topic, the dialog is very helpful for those still thinking about which model suits them. I am glad we went for the High Up. Interesting the comment about the engine being run in and it would be even more interesting to see what the outcome when the engine on the 60PS is run in.
 

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I'd imagine it won't be long before the aftermarket brigade offer an ecu flashing/chip-tuning product to up the power of the 60 engine
 

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The 75 PS version did come with lower overall gearing (about 8%), unless you had the stop start (blue motion) option, when the gearing was the same. The mapping only improves power above 5000 rpm. Without the lower gearing I really don't think you are going to notice the improvement.
 

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I'm a newbie with Up. Only two weeks. Honestly it is a car for my wife. But I'd like to make this car as nice as possible for her. Thank you for your reply. I think that she would not notice any difference at all. Thank you for fast reply. This is Up with start stop system anyway.
 

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That may have been true once, but at least since the facelift (which I think saw fitting of the much better Polo gearbox?) the 60 & 75ps have the same gear ratios and same diff. At least according to the tech specs I've seen....

I did have the opportunity to compare a loan-car 60ps with my 75ps during about an hour of driving (cars had similar mileages and same year) and I'd say the only time the 75ps is noticeable is when overtaking... Given how weedy both the 60 & 75ps are if you need to press on, the extra power* at the top end is well worth it. But tell your wife to not overtake!

* peak torque is the same for both versions, but the extra 15ps (and that is 25% more power) occurs well beyond peak torque, but clearly that means the torque curve stays higher on the 75ps as you get up to the red line.

If I'd bought the 60ps, and then tried a 75ps, I'd probably reckon that uploading the standard 75ps's map to the 60's ECU was worth it - we have fast tractors in Cornwall, so you need to not run out of puff when giving it some revs!
 
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