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I am new to forums and this is my only experience of being a member of one. I have checked out several other car forums tonight as a comparison and crikey, are they dull? Obviously we are all witty, intellectual people on here but what do you guys think? Is this the best car forum on the net?
 

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We are all Upstanding!!

I have am also a member of babybmw.net and seatcupra.net and both are pretty decent, you always get the odd nutter. We seem to have been blessed with none joining us here...yet...
 

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What do you mean as a odd nutter?

This is also my 1st experiance of any forum! I think I enjoy it as I joined when it was newish, Im into car wahing and thought about joining car wash forums but when I click on its like they are so dull, always the same grey background and always the same people using there shortend words like srp for super resin polish, so I read these then have to google what the products are! But on here its like im at home, comfortable chating to other people and then even organising meets etcEdited by: Itzben
 

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I think I may see a slight pattern here. Guess what? This is also my first forum! I joined up to find out moreinformationabout the up! and to see other's views and since then have been addicted.

Maybe this forum is so good because we all have a common interest... the up!. If this was just a VW forum it may not be so good because we don't all have aninterestin the same car. I don't know if that's true or not though as I've never actually been a member on any others!


I do know one thing though. This is probably the only car forum on the internet where we can have discussions about sausages!
 

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jezyg said:
We are all Upstanding!!

I have am also a member of babybmw.net and seatcupra.net and both are pretty decent, you always get the odd nutter. We seem to have been blessed with none joining us here...yet...
Did someone call me?


Sausages for tea tonight......really.

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What do you mean as a odd nutter?

By nutter I mean those that come to annoy (trolls) although we did have one visit recently and those that make wild claims. Like how their mothers bathroom carpet now fitted to their rear bumper adds 20mph to the top speed.
 

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jezyg said:
Itzben said:
What do you mean as a odd nutter?
By nutter I mean ... those that make wild claims. Like how their mothers bathroom carpet now fitted to their rear bumper adds 20mph to the top speed.
But it really does, honest.
 

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skyhigh said:
jezyg said:
Itzben said:
What do you mean as a odd nutter?
By nutter I mean ... those that make wild claims. Like how their mothers bathroom carpet now fitted to their rear bumper adds 20mph to the top speed.
But it really does, honest.

Oh it does like the guy who need a bigger speedo on his SEAT Leon due to performance improvement, here is the review of his car...I admit to writing on a guy called Buzz123


<b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Seat Leon 1.9 TDI Buzz FIRST DRIVE[/b]<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Test date[/b]Tuesday, September 06, 2011<b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Price as tested[/b]£14,790,<b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Trade in value[/b]50p<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">The Leon Buzz manages impressive standard spec for such a fast car.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">What is it?[/b]<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">David Cameron might be out of kilter with the rest of us - he's just pulled a shocking handbrake turn on plans to let high speed cars like this Leon Buzz go as fast as they like - but European manufacturers are still striving to get faster, models that won't go bang onto the market. Ultra-fast models are good for our willy waving ability and brand image.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">This Leon is Seat's second high performance model since the Cupra R launched last year, and it follows a familiar performance formula. Starting with the basic 1.9-litre diesel Leon (with its 139g/km CO2 emissions and 45mpg average) Buzz's engineers optimised the ECU and adjusted the gear ratios to make third, fourth and fifth gear shorter.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">That added 7g/km CO2 and 35mph. Next they reduced weight by getting Buzz to go on a diet and fitting lighter steel wheels from a Scooter rather than alloys. Another 5mph added. Lastly folded the rear seats flat to improve speed and handling.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">That leaves Leon Buzz as the cheapest 140mph company car and more engine trouble than a Austin Maxi. Initially we scoffed at that the speed figure, but then managed an impressive real-world 130mph on our test drive, and the Buzz's hardly a stripped out model, it's still got air-conditioning, electric windows and a six-speaker stereo.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">It's also faster than the standard 104bhp Leon - managing 0-62mph in 3.5 seconds rather than 11 - because it's lighter after Buzz's diet.The downside is the way it drives. Shorter gears mean the Buzz delivers power smoothly but unenthusiastically and it's now unhappy to settle into fifth at speeds below 160mph. Pitch up to a corner quickly and the small scooter tyres struggle for grip, too. But the Leon Buzz has optional airbrakes and stabilisers to aid handling and stopping.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Then there's the price - around £14,500 ""“ a £1000 premium over the similarly equipped, 1.9-litre diesel Leon Reference that lest be honest won't blow up and you may live to drive another day.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Should I buy one?[/b]<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">You'd have to be mad to buy a car that potentially will blow up and leave you dead after a few miles at 140mph. Residual value is very poor as it will be worthless after a few miles at the high speeds the Leon Buzz can attain. Die hard speed freaks may still be tempted the thought of the grim reaper too hard to resist.

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Wow I must try this rear seats folded down thing see if I can go faster!!
 

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I folded my rear seats down and went slower.....mind you I did have 5 bags of concrete in the boot

Go well.
 

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Nice one. This is exactly my point, you don't seem to get this quality content on the other forums I have looked at, just stuff about cars. Often written by illiterate cretins. Keep it up guys!
 

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Nice one. This is exactly my point, you don't seem to get this quality content on the other forums I have looked at, just stuff about cars. Often written by illiterate cretins. Keep it up guys!

I dare you to try Saxo, Corsa or Focus MK1 forums they make for an interesting read. It was a Corsa owner who first made the suggestion folding your seats down made his car go faster


I know we should not stereotype but...here is a follow up review this thread made 17 pages in the end. The thread started after a guy wanted to change his Speedo to read 160 mph in a 1.9TDi and then started toexaggeratea wee bit about his cars performance!

<b style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">SEAT Leon Buzz FR review 23/09/2011[/b]<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Amongst the myriad details in Buzz's press pack for the new SEAT Leon Buzz FR is a section listing the Buzz FR's competitors. Astra VXR, Focus RS and Mégane RS are all there but too slow too keep pace with the Buzz FR, but there is one very noticeable omission, the sort of absence so glaringly obvious that it might as well have been included and then crossed out with a bright yellow highlighter.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">The Leon is bought by a younger, more daring person maybe even stupid compared to the standard Leon FR and Cupra's more mature (and more affluent) purchaser<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Why no Golf GTI? Why wouldn't you want to highlight the fact that you have produced a car with a better engine and same fundamental chassis as the class leader, yet with more adventurous looks and a 10K saving? So I asked Buzz the question, and apparently the Leon Buzz FR and the Golf GTI 'don't really compete, the Buzz FR is so much faster so much more edgy'. To which I could only really reply with a still rather puzzled 'Ah'.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Now, obviously the comment was coloured by Buzz's creative thinking born out of being a true Yorkshire man in the same vain as Fred Dinbah is to Lancashire, but apparently it's also because the Leon is bought by a younger, more dangerous person than the Golf's more mature (and more affluent) purchaser.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">The Leon's Buzz FR's looks are undeniably more exciting. The clever use of cream bathroom carpet on the rear valance go well with the dark grey paintwork, this alone automatically give this Leon an advantage, making it look faster than its five-door rivals. The bodywork has then been bolstered by the addition of 16""� Bicycle wheels off of Buzz's 10 year old road bike; it certainly looks a more flamboyant prospect than most hot hatches. Only a Green Focus RS gets close.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">The interior lacks the detail quality of some of its rivals, making it feel a little cheaper - which it is with a McDonald's Coffee cup replacing the ash tray. However, the sporting ambience is given a leg up by a centrally placed rev-counter and Buzz FR badging on the steering wheel and gearknob. The seating position can be tailored to suit both jockeys and rowers although the blood and skid stain effect cloth is a matter of taste, the speedo is central to the car made twice the size of standard and decorated with dolly mixture to sweeten the appeal it changes from red to green when you hit 140mph.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">When the Leon FR was introduced there was a 2.0 TDi model with a lesser engine according to Buzz and sadly not quick enough for Buzz or as good. So Buzz stuck with the 1.9Tdi and added new injectors a turbo and remap to bring the power up to a whopping 200Bhp and for short burst of 0.000000001 sec on over boost a gigantic 2000Bhp.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">But the ride which was already surprisingly stiff in its set-up has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have sat on softer rocks the wheels which tend to bend under high speed cornering have no grip at all. Buzz did tell us to stick our hands out the window to aid braking if the car was not slowing down. So as we head off up into the hills knowing that the Buzz FR is going to be a bit of a filling-rattler and may well fall off the top the mountain the moment we hit a corner.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">There's more roll into corners than an aeroplane banking, so although there's no lateral grip, it lacks some of aggressiveness and instantadjustabilityof the standard FR. The steering far far too light; even less direct, but with a bigger helping hand with the assistance Buzz made from a couple of elastic bands.<br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;"><br style="color: rgb58, 58, 58; font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: normal;">Overall, though, it would seem that Buzz and SEAT aren't competitors after all. The Buzz FR slots in neatly just below the standard FR in both price and ultimate thrill although thrill maybe better placed with scary. Hopefully owners of the 240bhp Leon Cupra will not get blown away by Buzz in his FR Buzz but at least they will be able to stop and go round corners!!!

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I'm regularly visiting one other computer stuff related forum, and one guy there asked how could he affix a tablet computer to the dashboard in his car, so that he could watch music videos while driving. Then he couldn't understand why all other threads get some useful comments, but nobody wanted to help him...
 

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Haha watch music videos while driving lol

Sorry officer I didnt see that 30 sign I was watching beyonce haha
 

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I wonder why
Maybe Velcro on the tablet and on his forehead.......that should do it!!!
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I must check out the Seat Cupra forum when I get a minute, I have a fun evening lined up there.

Suggestion for the tablet guy, he could use double sided tape to fix it to the windscreen to watch One Direction or whatever, then he could simultaneously use the camera on the back to record his accident which he could then post on YouTube to prove that not only Russians have stupid crashes.
 

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Haha I sometimes wish we have a like button on this forum like we do on bookface I would of tapped it with the last post!!
 

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This is also my first forum, and I have to say it's like a big family. Everybody is passionate about the same thing (the Up/Mii & Citigo). There's a lot of knowledge out there, and things you discover that you never would have known unless you were on here. I also like to help others out with advice aswell as seeing other peoples cars. Plus you can have a good laugh (roll out the sausage jokes
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On the whole I think it's a cracking place to spend time with like minded people.

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If your sausages are cracking you need to poke them a bit more with your fork.Stops them splitting!
Sorry...I'll get my coat .

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