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I'm sure there are a few among us that want to have a winterset based on the various beautiful OEM alloys available for the Up! (Classic, Triangle or Upsilon). I want my car to look good in wintersetup too but with a suitable set of winter tires. I for one want to use the Classics on my Up! black but up to now I wasn't able to find a premium tire manufacturer that has a 185/50R16 winter tire available. And looking into other dimensions than OEM in 16 inch, I didn't find that much that might be acceptable


Has anybody found anything useable??

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Though I prefer the look of 16" rims year round the hand book states if chains are to be used the car can only be outfitted with165/70R14tires. I just took delivery of a set of 4 mounted on steel wheels this morning in preparation of winter.
 

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Though I prefer the look of 16" rims year round the hand book states if chains are to be used the car can only be outfitted with 165/70R14 tires. I just took delivery of a set of 4 mounted on steel wheels this morning in preparation of winter. 
That's correct as the tyres overall circumference is down 6mm when fitted with 165/70/14 compared to the 185/50/16.
 

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If you go to 185/55 R 16 there are premium Winter tyres available.

Indeed there are but the difference with 185/50 is 3% more, so this is too much
 

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Though I prefer the look of 16" rims year round the hand book states if chains are to be used the car can only be outfitted with165/70R14tires. I just took delivery of a set of 4 mounted on steel wheels this morning in preparation of winter.

In your situation I can imagine the necessity of chains in the winter. However were I live there are few days to none with heavy snow (I"m talking about perhaps 15 cm of snow haha). In fact all we need over here are tires that have a grip in lower temperatures (-7°), except of course for people coming your way during winter.
 

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In your situation I can imagine the necessity of chains in the winter. However were I live there are few days to none with heavy snow (I"m talking about perhaps 15 cm of snow haha). In fact all we need over here are tires that have a grip in lower temperatures (-7°), except of course for people coming your way during winter.

I've lived now nearly 25 years here in Switzerland and I am yet to have mounted snow chains on any vehicle I've ever owned during winter..! Down here in the low lands we can get a fair amount of snow at times but it's never enough to require anything more than a good set of winter tires. If I was to drive up to the mountains then for sure I would need chains but I normally just go with the train during snowy months but if for any reason I may need to mount chains (always got them in the trunk/boot) I'd prefer if my car was outfitted with the proper size rubber for them.
 

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Did you come to any conclusion in this thread? I have the same issue.I want to buy 16" alloys for the winter tyres, VW Ypsilon orhttp://www.interdekk.no/categories/upclose_wheel.php?sysnr=240263&remote_desc=TIRESIZES:205/45R16%20%20195/45R16%20%20185/50R16;RING:CENTER%20:%20%2063,3%3E%2057;&header=Volkswagen%20;Up%20;all%20types%20(AA)%20;16;%20

Can't find Michelin X-Ice XI2 or Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 (or any other premium tyres) in 185/50R16 forthesealloys.

How does this size thing work? Do I have to choose another alloy or can it be fitted with another tyre size and still fit the UP? I don't need chains. What did you end up doing, GunSpeed?

Thanks in advance for anyclarification around this issue:)
 

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Nothing new but I'll come back on this as soon as I have something...

Anyone else perhaps??
 

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This could be an alternative (posting it for users that don't know about it).This is 1x15" waffle alloy with winter tyre on it, ready to use. VW article no:1S0 073 265 8Z8





I personallypreferto use the Ypsilon/Upsilon 16" if possible (or other 16" alloys).




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That is quite expensive for a set of four at ‚¬716 or approximately £575.

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Collas said:
That is quite expensive for a set of four at ‚¬716 or approximately £575.

Nick

The tyres alone (4x without the alloys) cost about 3200NOK/430EUR/350GBP in Norway

So I think I'm going to pick this up next time I'm in Germany.
 

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That is quite expensive for a set of four at ‚¬716 or approximately £575.



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I thought it seemed a good deal. What are the alloys by themselves? £100 at least. Add on £75 per tyre (premium winter tyres are quite pricey) and you must be getting close to £200 per corner for alloys and tyres compared with less than £150 for that VW combination.
 

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Why would you want to put a less effective size of tyre on the up! for winter. Don't you want the best possible grip in poor conditions? The correct size of winter tyre is 165/70 R14 on 5x14 ET35 <!--if gte mso 9>
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GunSpeed said:
Indeed there are but the difference with 185/50 is 3% more, so this is too much
Hmm, I'm just curious. What is the problem here? I'd like to hear a second opinion before I buy 185/55R16 for winter...
 

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First of all, here in Belgium you're only allowed to fit tires which are at the most +1,5%(taller) or -2% (smaller) than the original size. But that is a local thing af course and don't know how it is in Finland....



Secondly you'll have problems to read your speedometer correctly, starting and accelerating of the car and other things... those tires are in fact a bit to high for this car.




A 195/45R16 will fit well (only -1,67% smaller) and there are a few manufacturers have them : the new Continental Wintercontact 850, the Michelin Alpin 4,...




Best fit would be a 205/45R16 but than the original 6 x16 will be a bit small, I think you'llneed at least 6,5 x 16 or even 7 x 16 rims
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I think folk are missing the point of winter tyres! They're there to provide better grip in cold / mud / leaves / snow conditions. Pre-requisite is narrower tyres (better psi put to ground) for the weight of the vehicle = narrower tyres; and higher profile to provide more give/snow-throwing capabilities. 195/45 R16 on an up! would be like putting skis on the thing ... not what you want if the idea is to stay on the road...
 

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If you have an up! with 15" or 16" wheels and want winter tyres of a similar size, 185/55 x 15 (same size as High up!) are commonly available and aren't too wide/low profile. With a bit of investigation, I believe there are 15" steels wheels that will fit and keep costs down to a more sensible level.
 

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I bought a full set the correct size winter tyres: 165/70 R14 Rockstone tyres fitted and balanced on new 5x14 ET35 steel wheels delivered to the door for 400‚¬.
 
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