[Emiel25]

My Ibiza has been remapped from 130hp to 170hp in 2005. I drove 426.000km since then, without ant problem so far.

 

[911ts3]

Also if you remap it and don't change the useless ECO Goodyears which are in my opinion under spec for this type of car even without a remap then be prepared for some off road excursions - so don't forget to tell your insurer about the remap...

Absolutely agree about the Goodyears, they're useless. I'm swapping to Dunlop Sport Maxx after the dealer swapped my 2 fronts from having a nail in, night and day difference.

Just keep your eye on the Dunlop Sport Maxx's. My old 75bhp High Up with 17" Polygon alloys had the Dunlops on from new, and within a year they'd developed noticeable cracking between the treads. Had two changed under warranty because of it, and then the new ones started showing it again, just before it was sold.
Great performing tyre, but you really don't want that in expensive rubber.

 

[volkswizard]

My Ibiza has been remapped from 130hp to 170hp in 2005. I drove 426.000km since then, without ant problem so far.

This engine IS an over engineered, uncomplicated, dirty diesel engine, no comparison to today's engines especially those in low profit margin city cars

Edited by: volkswizard

 

[Emiel25]

I have got a Golf 1.2 tsi 2013 family car as well, remapped to 140hp, drove 126.000 with it. Also without any problem. That is not a diesel. It is a modern engine. I think there is more margin than you think Andrew.Edited by: Emiel25

 

[wigit]

I have consistently modded and mapped cars for the last 10 years and my thoughts

Clutch will be the weak point due to the extra torque and that when you have a mapped car you tend to be lazy and ride the torque curve rather than dropping it down a cog and using the power

The longevity of a mapped car tends to be influenced by how the owner treats it, lest i warm up, lest it cool down, etc etc

The term custom map I detest as not always a plus point for quality and detracts from the custom mappers who are good but you could count on one hand, a custom map will not have anywhere near the level of testing as a generic map from one of the better tuners

My mapped cars have typically done 15-20k a year and some track work, only issues I have had is a replacement clutch on a Scirocco

The mk7 Golf R turbo was an interesting one on the first cars, I together with Revo had cars with this turbo and we did about 15,000 miles between on these, my car never suffered turbo failure and interestingly weight did Revo (and they did more extreme testing) until they upgraded the turbo

My thoughts on mapping the Up are I would like more power but not a huge slug of torque, I think some poor mapping on the torque front will just destroy the drivability

I never map cars I do not own, hence leased R has not been touched, I have not mapped my M2 as I don't think it needs it I value the warranty on the DCT transmission

I have never been a fan of tuning boxes, they only fool things and ECUs can store parameters that indicate where there have been in place (a friend is a VW Warranty Manager), interesting he said it is in their interest to fight for the customer as they get paid for the repairs

I have had a great experience with dealers and modded cars, i generally get my car flashed stock and drive it for a week before it goes in for a service

My advice on modifying is if you ask the question 'will it invalidate my warranty' then keep it stock as you will not be disappointed

Also if you can't afford or don't want to pay if it goes wrong don't play

 

[volkswizard]

I have got a Golf 1.2 tsi 2013 family car as well, remapped to 140hp, drove 126.000 with it. Also without any problem. That is not a diesel. It is a modern engine. I think there is more margin than you think Andrew.

It's a bit unscientific to use your car as an example that remaps don't affect reliability because it's all depends how many of those miles have been covered when the car is being driven outside of the factory parameters. If you done a lot of steady motorway miles it will be easy on the car whether mapped or not.

Anyway my point isn't that remaps will kill your car, but that faults occur in the first 3 years even on standard cars and your warranty will be invalid because of a remap etc, even if the remap isn't directly related to the fault occurring.

 

[Marty84]

I see Milltek have gained an extra 18.5bhp in collaboration with Shark Performance. I read previously that a gain of 11bhp was from the exhaust so it will be interesting to see what else theyve done.

 

[Ed463]

So had the TSI mapped to 131bhp.
I haven't driven too many miles yet, and it's been throwing it down so it's not had much of a test yet. Initial observations:
Driven normally, or even sedately, no difference. Just as flexible and nothing untoward in the context of "drivability".
Could be a placebo effect but idle seems slightly smoother. It'll never be very smooth!
I'll not be doing any 0 to 60, drop the clutch at 3k rpm nonsense but I have tested in gear acceleration. Not very scientific but I floor it in second at about 24-25mph and see how fast it is between 2 road signs. It's significantly quicker
It's as quick as I'd want it to be. The brakes, tyres, suspension (for me) are only adequate.
Celtic Tuning will revert the ecu to standard and reinstall the map free of charge if I request it, for what ever reason. They claim to know all the manufactures methods of detecting any alterations.
Quite pleased with the result.

 

[Marty84]

Sounds great! Any further plans?

 

[Emiel25]

150hp, 252nm torque. Originally 90hp tsi.
https://www.facebook.com/JDEngineering.nl/posts/1706970599349548Edited by: Emiel25

 

[volkswizard]

I see Milltek have gained an extra 18.5bhp in collaboration with Shark Performance. I read previously that a gain of 11bhp was from the exhaust so it will be interesting to see what else theyve done.

Have they released the original unmodified bhp figure of the car?

 

[Marty84]

I dont think so Andrew - Im keeping an eye on their FB Page as apparently further details will follow. Do you have reason to doubt VWs standard output claim? Edited by: Marty84

 

[Emiel25]

Standard ourput is already more; 120hp and 220nm. I posted pics of that in this forum.

 

[Ed463]

Sounds great! Any further plans?

Ah yes, the slippery slope into money shredding

Although it's a fun car which I already enjoyed it doesn't get driven a huge amount. Although my son did put a lot of miles on it last year(It's due an oil service in a few days)

So. I'll just use it for a while and ponder that question. Suspension would be my instinct. The rear is under damped for sure.
Having said that I've driven cars that have been ruined by after market suspension mods. So it will take some research.
The Miltek exhaust is interesting. I'd want to hear one in real life first though. My son has one on a 300bhp Golf. It sounds good, nothing too extreme.

 

[Marty84]

I do like the idea of a Milltek exhaust but like you, Id really need to hear it first to determine if its worth it.

 

[bumbleMii]

there's a few clips on youtube with normal TSI UP!s with the exhaust and it doesn't sound too bad, but at least it stops the can sounding like a sewing machine.

 

[Marty84]

I posted one up a while back. To be honest, Im hoping the GTI version sounds a little fruitier.

 

[Sean66]

I've spent a lot of money upgrading my current car with big turbo, big intercooler , miltek exhaust, Sachs organic clutch, Quife lsd ect ect ect but I can tell you I'm keeping my Up gti standard as I believe pretty spot on as a ROAD car.
Better tyres will be eventually fitted along with bilstien dampers but that's it.

 

[volkswizard]

I've spent a lot of money upgrading my current car with big turbo, big intercooler , miltek exhaust, Sachs organic clutch, Quife lsd ect ect ect but I can tell you I'm keeping my Up gti standard as I believe pretty spot on as a ROAD car.
Better tyres will be eventually fitted along with bilstien dampers but that's it.

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[ThatUp!GTI]

As someone who has had one for about 3 weeks now i can tell you 2 things: the "exhaust noise" is great, just enough to make you want to push along and not intrusive when not. The other thing is change the tyres, the Goodyear are garbage. I changed to the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT and they are brilliant, grip like **** and are comfortable when cruising.