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#21 ·
Worth waiting for a blackcircles 10% off day.

I watched the Volkswizard video and there is a good chance that most cars would have acted like that on that section of road and he did say how good the damping was and I'm 99% sure that car is not running on the GTi specific version of the Eibach's unless the owner has switched the front springs since the initial install?
 
#23 ·
I like them but they are very expensive especially if you don't want them in silver and they always look smaller than they are due to the design and the spokes not going all the way to the edge of the rim...

But from a weight and brand point of view they are pretty impressive.

The guy doesn't post on here anymore but he said they were the same item as fitted to the normal Up they later released the GTi specific version with a slightly different product code TSi17 will back me up he has had both versions. I think I had one of the earliest sets and the front springs are stiffer to allow for the wheels and the extra dive from the bigger brakes.
 
#25 ·
I am very OCD and I've even been back to his original post and zoomed in on his springs they are 30nm and the GTi specific ones are 50nm doesn't sound like much....

Until you convert it to pound-force inches

30nm = 265 pound-force inches
50nm = 442 pound-force inches
 
#26 ·
AT999 said:
Like many of you I watched the latest Volkswizard video. That car was on 16's (eibach pro st s, like mine) and I did notice a bit of a bump in the ride at one point in the video, I think due to a change in the level of the road.
I think with the limited suspension travel, lightness and SWB there's only so far we can go with comfort on UK roads....even on 16's. On the flip side, it's fantastic in the twistes. Very neutral and lots of fun.
I'm still mulling over what yo do, but from all the views it's clear it will only improve😀
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I'm running more or less the identical setup to him in terms of springs and tyre size etc and whilst it is a huge, huge, HUGE improvement over the stock setup, there are still bangs and crashes here and there which even in my previous Golf were apparent. So I think there's only so much you can do to improve the ride comfort in these cars especially with them being such a short wheel base.

I do want to move to a 17x7 setup for the summer months so I'm really curious to know what the ride will be like on that.
 
#27 ·
Are you not on GTi specific Eibach's? I am on standard wheels with wider tyres and the ride itself is excellent I think you get the odd noise from the rear....

I have thought about some silent coat on the inside of boot on the wheel wells as if you tap on it towards the back of the car it echoes like mad I wonder if it just acts like an amplifier but the actual ride for coilovers and the height it's running I can't complain about!

I would like to try some lifter 7x17 inch wheels just to know if it has any affect or not?
 
#28 ·
Mark.cup said:
Are you not on GTi specific Eibach's? I am on standard wheels with wider tyres and the ride itself is excellent I think you get the odd noise from the rear....

I have thought about some silent coat on the inside of boot on the wheel wells as if you tap on it towards the back of the car it echoes like mad I wonder if it just acts like an amplifier but the actual ride for coilovers and the height it's running I can't complain about!

I would like to try some lifter 7x17 inch wheels just to know if it has any affect or not?
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Sorry yes I am on specific GTI Eibach's. I do get some noises from the rear but I think that's mainly down to the lack of sound proofing. I do wonder if it's the jack etc in the boot moving around within the foam holder. I did think about picking up an actual spare tyre tbh.

I would suspect that if it was a lighter weight tyre then definitely it could help.
 
#33 ·
I'm very reluctant to touch the exhaust as my Clio 182 has one on it and even though it's one of the more subtle ones it did my head in but sounded epic at 7000rpm 😻.

If I ever had one the resonated Scorpion would be high on my list with the carbon tip...

I would want the car to sound a touch more purposeful but without any drone something that's not always possible 😬
 
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AT999 said:
How do you find the ride on the cross climate 2 @ 205/40 compared to the original Goodyears? Thanks
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Can’t say I’ve noticed a massive difference, TBH.

I’m very happy with the Michelins, though. Of course it’s compromised compared to the PS’s of the world but I just love its all round capability and competence.
 
#37 ·
I've got some geeky measurements/data to share in the 16" wheel thread eventually - not much of a weight saving in what I've put on in comparison with the OE wheels and tyres, I think because the Goodyear factory tyres are so light. Am also finding tyre wear accounts for a surprising difference in weight with the Oswalds which have done about 9k.

The nature of the ride on 205/45/16 seems no different to the standard wheels/tyres to me - it still picks up every imperfection/change in the road surface etc - the difference is in the way they must soak up the worst of the intrusions, I've not heard any banging yet (so glad to have gotten rid of the banging - it really knocks confidence in the car). Going to swap back to the Oswalds for the coming week, to compare. Given that the nature of the ride seems no different, I'm even more interested to try Pro Streets now; not for a good while though.

Mark, have you not been tempted to swap the Clio's wheels onto the up? 172 Cup Turninis (ET38??) should go straight on, not sure what you've on yours though?
 
#38 ·
I've got a 182 cup so no speedlines and I've seen a set on the Up and it didn't do anything for me personally. I don't want to drop to 16's as to my eye it can often make the car look like a normal Up....

I do love the standard wheels and half the reason I've not tried any of the 17 inch wheels I like is because I'm frightened I will look at my own car and think what have you done 🙀🤬😭.

But the urge to try a set is still pretty strong potholes are where those heavy standard wheels make there presence known but to be honest the UK roads have become a disgrace and no car will glide over a crater fit for the moon.
 
#39 ·
It hasn't suddenly become a 4x4 and I do still have to scan to avoid potholes but it has yet to frighten me with a massive bang from one I've missed - which happens frequently on the Oswalds.

Fully agree with the looks thing though. Despite not being a fan of diamond cuts, these wheels do look amazing, especially when everything's been washed&polished. Function over form for me every time though!
 
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